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.S.
11-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Is Golden Monkey a breed by itself or belong to ZZ Breed?

Does anyone have a picture of a true Golden Monkey?

What are the distinction features of a GM which differ it from a ZZ?

Please share your views.

TheLegend
11-10-2007, 01:00 AM
Is Golden Monkey a breed by itself or belong to ZZ Breed?

Does anyone have a picture of a true Golden Monkey?

What are the distinction features of a GM which differ it from a ZZ?

Please share your views.

wah this one lagi chim. many version and belief and claim....:big_smile: however lets accept any belief:big_smile:

.S.
11-10-2007, 01:51 AM
Hehehe....what is your belief? I believe GM is not ZZ breed.

wah this one lagi chim. many version and belief and claim....:big_smile: however lets accept any belief:big_smile:

Warrior
11-10-2007, 11:52 AM
should be a different breed. but dun think still got golden monkey

.S.
11-10-2007, 07:48 PM
I also believe GM is a breed itself.

Many breeders claim they have GM still. How come no more GM? Do you mean pure breed GM?

Do you have a picture of a pure breed GM?

should be a different breed. but dun think still got golden monkey

meng
12-10-2007, 12:42 AM
what i feel is this LH close to being a Golden Monkey
cause body is golden coloured
and the face look like real monkey
with the face red in colour
i may be wrong:geeked:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x123/hmeng31/fish/ori018.jpg

meng
12-10-2007, 12:44 AM
photo is from the website shown
have post them before:geeked:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x123/hmeng31/fish/ori019.jpg

.S.
13-10-2007, 02:52 AM
They called it Kamalau. So is Kamalau breed = GM?

photo is from the website shown
have post them before:geeked:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x123/hmeng31/fish/ori019.jpg

.S.
13-10-2007, 02:53 AM
This GM belonged to ex-AF moderator.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z181/flowerhorn_sg/GM.jpg

meng
13-10-2007, 10:05 AM
They called it Kamalau. So is Kamalau breed = GM?
kamalau is Cantonese dialect meaning
kam= gold
malau=monkey
which KamFa also from same dielect
kam=gold
Fa= flower
where as JingHua is Mandarin meaning
jing= gold
hua= flower

Monkeyface
13-10-2007, 12:12 PM
Hope to see the real authentic pic of a classic KML. Too many argument and debates over this strain whenever someone brings up this topic. Hope it won't happen here as I'm really trying to tell apart gm, zz, hj...etc.

meng
14-10-2007, 12:08 AM
Hope to see the real authentic pic of a classic KML. Too many argument and debates over this strain whenever someone brings up this topic. Hope it won't happen here as I'm really trying to tell apart gm, zz, hj...etc.


there are no 100% of what ever name given now
cause is a cross breed
name given to give it recognition
for me now is not the name of the fish
but the beauty of it:geeked:

Monkeyface
14-10-2007, 02:32 PM
there are no 100% of what ever name given now
cause is a cross breed
name given to give it recognition
for me now is not the name of the fish
but the beauty of it:geeked:

Ok, points noted. No doubt no more 100% pure breed, cross breed of LH now really eye opener! Every breeder is moving forward, not backward. Just like bettas, now gold, platinum gold, monster and other variants etc really spice up the betta world...I wouldn't want to just buy those originally fighters for appreciation:huh:

meng
15-10-2007, 12:47 AM
Ok, points noted. No doubt no more 100% pure breed, cross breed of LH now really eye opener! Every breeder is moving forward, not backward. Just like bettas, now gold, platinum gold, monster and other variants etc really spice up the betta world...I wouldn't want to just buy those originally fighters for appreciation:huh:


that's why don't have to diff from what breed what breed
very confusing just enjoy the new generation of LH:geeked:

hascute
16-10-2007, 01:02 AM
that's why don't have to diff from what breed what breed
very confusing just enjoy the new generation of LH:geeked:
yeah lei...:big_smile: just enjoy keeping beautiful louhan....:wink::cool:

TheLegend
16-10-2007, 02:34 AM
yeah lei...:big_smile: just enjoy keeping beautiful louhan....:wink::cool:
enjoy but still got to know what we enjoy.....debate ok but dont fight hehehe....or KPKB.....and insist that whatever we say is right and others wrong....:wink: :big_smile:

TheLegend
16-10-2007, 02:45 AM
Is Golden Monkey a breed by itself or belong to ZZ Breed?

Does anyone have a picture of a true Golden Monkey?

What are the distinction features of a GM which differ it from a ZZ?

Please share your views.

Tell u a story......i used to be JH fanatics , one day in the year 2003 or 4 i participate in a comp at expo using my A series which at that time power but as it a JH, lack of colour, . when all the fish are in the tank , wow i saw this one particular fish which doesnt look like a ZZ to me, i know my Jh will not stand a chance, true enought that fish become champ in Cat B. it bro Chun han KGM....There i start to hunt for such breed and fortunately i manage to tikum one:big_smile:

this was the fish which to me dont look like a zz or JH

Ironhide2020
16-10-2007, 09:57 AM
Tell u a story......i used to be JH fanatics , one day in the year 2003 or 4 i participate in a comp at expo using my A series which at that time power but as it a JH, lack of colour, . when all the fish are in the tank , wow i saw this one particular fish which doesnt look like a ZZ to me, i know my Jh will not stand a chance, true enought that fish become champ in Cat B. it bro Chun han KGM....There i start to hunt for such breed and fortunately i manage to tikum one:big_smile:

this was the fish which to me dont look like a zz or JH


This pc is a really superb. This is what i called Monkey face. Is there any such breed in spore. Bro Zack thanks for sharing:smile:

TheLegend
16-10-2007, 12:27 PM
This pc is a really superb. This is what i called Monkey face. Is there any such breed in spore. Bro Zack thanks for sharing:smile:

this is imported by H23 then from Malaysia, H23 bring in few batches then, subsequently the sibling which have grown up being inbreed, i believe bro hascute one is one of it decendent:big_smile: As this gene has been breed with diff male, i believe the are few different type produce.
this type have fine lining and pearl which are not like zz which is shining and thick:big_smile:
another thing to note is the head lining normally cant be seen when young but subsequently will spead when it grow

Ironhide2020
16-10-2007, 06:33 PM
this is imported by H23 then from Malaysia, H23 bring in few batches then, subsequently the sibling which have grown up being inbreed, i believe bro hascute one is one of it decendent:big_smile: As this gene has been breed with diff male, i believe the are few different type produce.
this type have fine lining and pearl which are not like zz which is shining and thick:big_smile:
another thing to note is the head lining normally cant be seen when young but subsequently will spead when it grow


Thanks for your info. This is really a high quality fish.

hascute
24-10-2007, 04:07 AM
enjoy but still got to know what we enjoy.....debate ok but dont fight hehehe....or KPKB.....and insist that whatever we say is right and others wrong....:wink: :big_smile:
agreed..:big_smile: kekekeke down here piss no war....:big_smile: :cool:

Mystique
25-10-2007, 12:45 AM
agreed..:big_smile: kekekeke down here piss no war....:big_smile: :cool:

We have full confidence on you all pioneer f-h members to share this fantastic flowerhorn hobby peacefully and happily.:wink:

.S.
26-10-2007, 01:26 AM
Thanks for your info.

Some expert told me that Kamalau is 金玛骝 and it is not Golden Golden breed :wink:

kamalau is Cantonese dialect meaning
kam= gold
malau=monkey
which KamFa also from same dielect
kam=gold
Fa= flower
where as JingHua is Mandarin meaning
jing= gold
hua= flower

.S.
26-10-2007, 01:29 AM
I think that Champ is Bro Ah Kiong's KGM. Monkey Face + Big Tail Bone. One glance most of our fellow brothers can tell it is not a ZZ. :big_smile:

Tell u a story......i used to be JH fanatics , one day in the year 2003 or 4 i participate in a comp at expo using my A series which at that time power but as it a JH, lack of colour, . when all the fish are in the tank , wow i saw this one particular fish which doesnt look like a ZZ to me, i know my Jh will not stand a chance, true enought that fish become champ in Cat B. it bro Chun han KGM....There i start to hunt for such breed and fortunately i manage to tikum one:big_smile:

this was the fish which to me dont look like a zz or JH

TheLegend
26-10-2007, 06:39 PM
I think that Champ is Bro Ah Kiong's KGM. Monkey Face + Big Tail Bone. One glance most of our fellow brothers can tell it is not a ZZ. :big_smile:
yes you are right, it not to me also.

TheLegend
27-10-2007, 03:25 PM
agreed..:big_smile: kekekeke down here piss no war....:big_smile: :cool:
this one breeder in Subang jaya Selangor call it GM, i will accept it lah as who can say it is not:big_smile:

hascute
27-10-2007, 03:46 PM
this one breeder in Subang jaya Selangor call it GM, i will accept it lah as who can say it is not:big_smile:
power lei...... d blink blink all over.......sweeeeeeeeee,thks 4 sharing bro Z :big_smile: :wink:

MalauManiac
29-10-2007, 12:03 PM
power lei...... d blink blink all over.......sweeeeeeeeee,thks 4 sharing bro Z :big_smile: :wink:


Agreed agreed.......blink blink all over...cute face colour brown brown sugar........powerrrr:big_smile:

hascute
29-10-2007, 07:21 PM
Agreed agreed.......blink blink all over...cute face colour brown brown sugar........powerrrr:big_smile:
kekekekekeke:stick_out_tongue: brown sugar soooooo sweettttttt:wink: :big_smile:

MalauManiac
30-10-2007, 11:38 AM
kekekekekeke:stick_out_tongue: brown sugar soooooo sweettttttt:wink: :big_smile:


Muakakakakakakkka........

But Zack's seven wonders was really have a monkey face...very the sweee....:big_smile:

TheLegend
30-10-2007, 10:51 PM
This GM belonged to ex-AF moderator.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z181/flowerhorn_sg/GM.jpg
this one if u see properly more to kamfa but those days it known as GM. the nick name PIt Bull if im not wrong. those day one of this one power one but quality like this now not so power already

TheLegend
30-10-2007, 10:53 PM
power lei...... d blink blink all over.......sweeeeeeeeee,thks 4 sharing bro Z :big_smile: :wink:
but look at the finnage...different from KGM that i used to have

TheLegend
30-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Muakakakakakakkka........

But Zack's seven wonders was really have a monkey face...very the sweee....:big_smile:
where the pic of 2 mei mei, right one not bad da :big_smile:

Monkeyface
30-10-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks for sharing with me some GM history, especially with pics. I only know how to buy but don't really know how to tell gm and zz...especially many other countries' gm which still looks the same as zz, which got me confused.:crying:

MalauManiac
31-10-2007, 10:03 AM
where the pic of 2 mei mei, right one not bad da :big_smile:


Hehehehehe...i chose oleidy lei......:stick_out_tongue:

hascute
01-11-2007, 06:48 AM
Muakakakakakakkka........

But Zack's seven wonders was really have a monkey face...very the sweee....:big_smile:
kekekekeke that fish no need 2 say lei..powerrrrr:wink: :big_smile:

hascute
01-11-2007, 06:50 AM
but look at the finnage...different from KGM that i used to have
yalorrrr very d difference:big_smile: d finnage better:big_smile: :wink:

.S.
26-11-2007, 12:34 AM
I believe breeder used barred midas to cross.

If you ask me during those days...Kamfa not like that one.

See the face and big white eyes...like Monkey. :wink:

this one if u see properly more to kamfa but those days it known as GM. the nick name PIt Bull if im not wrong. those day one of this one power one but quality like this now not so power already

TheLegend
02-12-2007, 10:49 PM
I believe breeder used barred midas to cross.

If you ask me during those days...Kamfa not like that one.

See the face and big white eyes...like Monkey. :wink:


bro kamfa also white eye But no colour pale and no pearl, wonder why this call GM when now they said GM/Kamalau have no flower,

hehe then is this monkey face

TheLegend
08-12-2007, 01:48 AM
bro kamfa also white eye But no colour pale and no pearl, wonder why this call GM when now they said GM/Kamalau have no flower,

hehe then is this monkey face
here clearer pic

TheLegend
22-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Thanks for sharing with me some GM history, especially with pics. I only know how to buy but don't really know how to tell gm and zz...especially many other countries' gm which still looks the same as zz, which got me confused.:crying:
Hi bro in af someone post the charactoristic of GM pointed by bro bejita from indo, i think i agree with all the point that he mention.:big_smile and kgm have all those that he mention:big_smile:but long long time ago one LH GURU from AF said it a ZZ...kekekeke, and also a master of GM from malaysia infact bought the KGM from sg...hehehe

Aquatic Planet
29-12-2007, 01:17 AM
I think old GM is still more to kamfa........not zz leh....only they keep crossing then GM breed run out liao....then they stop the generation of GM....but others still anyhow breed and follow name by calling GM.....so many ppl got confused to how GM look like lor....

So now u all say GM got new look meh?

TheLegend
31-12-2007, 03:37 PM
I think old GM is still more to kamfa........not zz leh....only they keep crossing then GM breed run out liao....then they stop the generation of GM....but others still anyhow breed and follow name by calling GM.....so many ppl got confused to how GM look like lor....

So now u all say GM got new look meh?


hehe .now more confusing:big_smile:

.S.
04-01-2008, 01:44 AM
Wow this fellow very vẻry nice!!!

here clearer pic

alfon1234
04-01-2008, 12:26 PM
Old pics Golden monkey,

TheLegend
04-01-2008, 12:31 PM
Old pics Golden monkey,
oh yes i remember the 2nd and 3 pic known as GM those days...:big_smile: just look does it look like the NEWER GM or Kamalau:big_smile:

alfon1234
04-01-2008, 12:48 PM
oh yes i remember the 2nd and 3 pic known as GM those days...:big_smile: just look does it look like the NEWER GM or Kamalau:big_smile:

Yes bos, i keeep many golden monkey pics at my harddisk that people post at those days. :big_smile:

monster
04-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Old pics Golden monkey,
wah, good golden monkey pictures remind us how to see. Long time never check back GM. good sharing.

.S.
01-02-2008, 12:10 AM
Thanks for sharing GM pictures.

I noticed GM has dropping "throat" (don't know what the that part is called) and the ****** connecting from the throat to anaal fin is rectangular in shape.

I also noticed the upper body is larger than lower part.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z181/flowerhorn_sg/1-6.jpg

ZZ
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z181/flowerhorn_sg/zz.jpg

Old pics Golden monkey,